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  MTS School???

  by LearningMore in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  could someone explain what mts is?

  i am assuming it is ministerial training school, but i don't really know the significance of it.

  i keep hearing reference to it, but i guess i don't understand who attended, and what sort of prestige it provided.

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  Octarine Prince

  Indoctrination center.
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  Do You Wake Up With Answers?

  by compound complex in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just now awoke from a nap, a "solution" to a knotty question at my bedside, patiently awaiting my return to wakefulness, with the answer that eluded me during conscious deliberations.

  generally, when this has happened, now and in the past, what appears to have been an instant realization turns out to be exactly what i needed.. have you ever experienced this?.

  why does it happen?.

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  Octarine Prince

  There are whole religions based on using the subconscious to help with life.
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  JWs lie with such decadence

  by 83501nwahs in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was just at roscoe's in long beach when the assembly crowd with their badges on came in.

  i decided that they must want to be approached since they were advertizing their witnesshood on their clothing.

  nothing could be further from the truth.

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  Octarine Prince

  My non-JW cousin lives in Long Beach, so when I visit her eventually, I know where to have a great time.
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  Are JW's allowed to go to Alcoholic's Anonomous?

  by digderidoo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went to an aa meeting tonight for the first time in a few weeks.

  after about 6 weeks of attempting to control my drinking in a social way, i feel that it best to go the abstinence route as i wasn't really enjoying it.. anyway i got to thinking afterwards whether jw's are allowed to go to them?

  i have heard how some elders disaprove of them because it's classed as a spriitual program.

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  Octarine Prince

  http://forums.3rd-millennium-inc.com/YaBB.pl
  
  for the information.
  
  The fellowship can come from AA, if you choose, or somewhere
  else you feel comfortable.
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  YOUR DAILY JOURNAL

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dear friends,.

  much of what we do on a daily basis is routine and of no particular, earth-shaking importance.

  however, after reviewing letters of family going back to wwii, it is fascinating to read what dad was doing on board the aircraft carrier in the pacific on any old day, what mom was cooking on her ever-steaming range, how i was dealing with the roller coaster of emotion at bethel [mom saved all my letters], how nana wrote that she would not study with the witnesses [per my request] but 'here are some mittens i knitted for you when you canvass new york with your magazines.

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  Octarine Prince

  My spirituality is making some progress.
  
  My animal ken is returning.
  
  The deer watched ME. Twice. I said "Hi!"
  
  And a bird was waiting for me to feed it. Not a damn pigeon. A SPARROW.
  Yeah, it's serious.
  
  I'm back.
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  Do You Wake Up With Answers?

  by compound complex in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just now awoke from a nap, a "solution" to a knotty question at my bedside, patiently awaiting my return to wakefulness, with the answer that eluded me during conscious deliberations.

  generally, when this has happened, now and in the past, what appears to have been an instant realization turns out to be exactly what i needed.. have you ever experienced this?.

  why does it happen?.

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  Octarine Prince

  Dream journaling is something I simply must start.
  
  I have some PDFs on dream work, and will be reading them this summer.
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  Aug 15-08 Study WT - More evil apostates!

  by still_in74 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well i just got the aug 15 study edition.

  i flipped through it for about 10 seconds and found the word apostate.

  big surprise.

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  Octarine Prince

  That is why I keep on repeating my same thing:
  
  USE FACTS.
  
  Use court papers that the Society's lawyers signed concerning pedophile issues.
  
  Use official documents concerning the Society's embarrassing membership in the UN.
  
  Use newspaper archives about the Tacoma Parking Scandal.
  
  etc.
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  Warning!! Fake Lotto Scam

  by Wordly Andre in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my grandma has been getting these letters in the mail that she won some kind of canadian lotto, yesterday she received a check in the mail for $3,900.00, looks like a real, official check however the letter then goes on to explain that she must pay international tax of $2,000.00 and gives instructions on how to wire the money to pay the international tax, and if she does the full ammount of the winnings will be sent to her.

  thank god my grandma called be just before she went to the bank, it took awhile to convince her that it was a scam because she said the letter looked so official and she even called the phone number listed on the letter, i told her that if she deposited the check in her account it will take a few days for the bank to catch it but the check will be returned and she will have to pay back the money.

  please let all your older ones know about this, i looked it up online and it's called the canadian/ spanish lotto scam.

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  Octarine Prince

  Don't pay any fee to collect any prize.
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  Question about Conscience matter

  by Iwonder17 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok, i will keep this breif.. i have always had a problem with conscience matter's and here is my reasoning.

  whenever a conscience matter issue comes up, they always end with a comment something like "whatever your conscience allows you to do" and you will answer to god for your actions.. i believe there is no such of a thing as a conscience matter for the following reasons:.

  1) if there was a conscience matter posed to jesus, what side of the issue would he choose?

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  Octarine Prince

  Yep.
  
  They say: "Conscience Matter," but they really mean: "This is something we
  can't get away with directly telling you the course we want you to take,
  but we will strongly hint at it, and harass and penalize you if you take
  the other course."
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  How do you get a non-thinker out?

  by Mickey mouse in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's really difficult for me to strike up "spiritual" conversations with my husband.

  i am far more studious than he is (hence why i'm the one here i guess!!).

  his membership in the borg is purely based upon habit and family appeasement.

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  Octarine Prince

  That chart is the fuggin' truth.
  
  It is a great example.
  
  But, to answer the original question, it is very difficult. I have decided that my mother will die a Witness. It is all she knows. She is not strong enough to break away. I just want her to die somewhat happy. That is the best I can hope for.
  
  With a spouse, you are in an unenviable situation. Continue to bring up the facts that show what they are really about. Don't concentrate on opinions, and people's personality flaws, etc. Bring up the hardcore things: pedophile situation, UN membership, etc.